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Pagans would you care to help me?

If so great. Here goes. What are the differences and similarities if any at all between the following, Thelema, Hermeticism, Wicca, Druidism, Santeria, Candomble, Voodooo aka Vodoun, Hoodoo, Ifa, Shamanism, Animism, Yoruba, and whatever other forms that you can think of? I know I'm probably leaving some out. That's because I can't remember some of the other forms. I know this is a pretty vague question but bear with me okay.
Thanks alot for nothing wolfgang.
Vinslave - I don't mind long answers as long as they contain the information that I am looking to obtain.
Okay Black Allissa. And leave any links as well. Thanks.

Whoa this is a big question, lets take a look at some of these that can be grouped together, such as Santeria, Candomble Vodou, Yoruba and Ifa. Ifa is an ancient & original practice that is indegionous to Africa, the others are based off of that origianal practice of ancestor worship, through trance possession by the LOA or Orisha. Santeria and Vodou are the ones that I know the most about, and I know that these two are "syncretic" paths. Meaning that they combine the origianl Ifa religion with the Catholic religion. Using images of Saints as the LOA & Orisha. All of these practices utilize Trance Possession through rhythm, and drumming is a very important aspect of the rituals and ceremonies. The ethical code of these is vastly different than that of Wicca, as opposed to harm none, they believe that the gods hate a hypocrite... it is ok to curse someone if necessary as long as you don't do the act that caused you to want to curse that person. For example, say you cursed a rapist who raped your sister, you caused his nuts to shrivel up to nothin...you best not have your way with someone sexually against thier will or the gods(ancestors) will inflict a punishment on you that is ten, twenty or hundred times worse than what you did...

Thelema & Hermeticism are magical practices and not religions. The ethical code among Thelemites is "Do as thou will shall be the whole of the law, love is the law love under Will" Their practices are highly ritualized and both require an inititation into an order or lodge in order to learn the meaning behind the rituals and inner workings of ceremonial magick.

Edit: This is in no way an "earth based religion" it is also not a solitary path, a group or lodge is necessary to advance beyond the basic 'outer court knowledge'

Tradtional Wicca is a combination of ceremonial practices of hermeticism & masonic ritual, mixed with european folklore, either adapted from Leland's "Aradia: Gospel of Witches" and/or Welsh/Brythonic folklore. It was pieced together by Gerald Gardner in the early 1950's after the last laws against witchcraft were repealed. He was (according to legend) an initiated member of the "New Forest Coven" inititated by one Dorthy Clutterbuck, which seems to indicate a lineage older than "Old Uncle Gerald" However since the ritual structure is so close to that of the Masons, what is practiced as Wicca today is unlikely the same as the witchcraft practiced by the New Forest Coven. Ethics passed on from teacher to student in Wicca is done via a poem called the "Wiccan Rede" It was believed that Doreen Valiente was the author, but there has been some debate that it was originally penned by Adriana Porter, a heredity witch from New Haven Connecticut. Traditional Wicca also requires an intitation into a coven, inorder to gain access to "the mysteries." However with the advent of Neo-wicca... self-dedication is a popular path, though it is not currently recognized by traditionalists.

Animism is the oldest religion according to any of the anthropology courses I took in college It's main belief is that god is everything & everything is god, it gives god like qualities to the sun, moon, change of seasons, land, trees, rain etc. Many of the ancient polytheistic beliefs were based on Animism.

Shamanism and animism are closely linked. Whether it is core shamanism as taught by Micheal Harner, Psychedelic shamanism derived from ancient practices & revived through the popularity of books by authors such as Carlos Castenada or Traditional teachings from any number of indeginous tribes passed on from elder to novince. I know more about core shamanism so that is my reference point here. It is a practice that involves a healing procedure known as "soul retrieval" it incorperates deep meditation, underworld journey, trance possession, power animals, drumming etc. The first journey of the core shaman is to meet with thier power animal, which serves as a guide & protector in the underworld. Any subsequent journeys provide release of "elf shot" and "gathering the shards of your soul" to make yourself whole.

Edit: The word shaman is of Siberian Origin, and though many cultures throughout the world have utilized "shamanic techniques" it is somehow confused with Native American spirituality. Although some traditional Native Americans utilize shamanic techniques they do not "corner the market" on Shamanism.

I am not too familiar with the actual practice of Druidism, I know that is mostly a reconstruction based of roman transcripts by authors such as Tacitus, and other monks. The Druids were, in ancient Europe a Priestly Class, who officiated the many ritual practices of the time (including human sacrifice). Modern druids seem to have a strong veneration torwards nature, and work with the spirits of nature, such as tree spirits etc. Issac Bonewits is a prolific author on the subject.

Hoodoo is a magical practice that involves pretty much whatever is handy or available at the time, Poppets, rootwork, candle magic, herbalism, etc...I have practiced a bit of rootwork, but I am not very well versed in the practice of Hoodoo.

Other forms that I can think of include Pennsylvania Dutch Powow, Rune Risting, bindrunes & Galdur, Sorcery, and Chaos Magick. What all of these have in common is that they follow the Laws of magic which are, according to Fraizer in "The Golden Bough" The Law of Similarity & The Law of Contagion.

The Law of Similarity states that items of a similiar nature are affected the same way. If you are able to affect a drop of water you are able to affect all of the oceans.

The Law of Contagion means that objects that were once in close proximity to each other still have the ability to affect the other even if they are seperated... Hence the use of hair, or person al articles in sympathetic practices such as poppets, that single strand of hair still contains the essence of the person you wish to affect.

That is all that I can think of to add at the moment. I included a list of websites in the reference section, however most of the info that I presented came from my personal interpretation through practice & research over the past 22 years. I hope it helped.

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